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Java books I'm considering Because it never hurts to have a good reference book around, I'm in the market to load up my bookshelf again. Don't know if I'll actually read these suckers, but I use these tools all the time, and I'm tired of searching on Google. I've found that just having these types of books are invaluable for a quick reference.

Any other recommendations - or better alternatives to the ones I've listed? Posted in Java at Sep 26 2003, 10:00:18 AM MDT 15 Comments

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Some J2ee patterns book, eg Core J2EE Patterns. Not expensive and a good reference...

Posted by David on September 26, 2003 at 11:18 AM MDT #

Thanks Dave - already got it! ;-)

Posted by Matt Raible on September 26, 2003 at 11:20 AM MDT #

Remember that any Manning book can be bought online for 1/2 price. This post reminded me that I wanted to pick Eclipse in Action up, so I just bought the eBook for $22.95 . Good deal. (Unless you like killing trees... then ignore this. ;-))

Posted by Russ on September 26, 2003 at 01:09 PM MDT #

Here's my desert island list: http://jdtangney.com/resources.html

Posted by John Tangney on September 26, 2003 at 02:12 PM MDT #

When is the "Hibernate in Action" Coming out?

Posted by Matt P on September 26, 2003 at 03:53 PM MDT #

Effective Java by Joshua something Kicks ass. And the Pragmatic programmer is also good too. That open source book you mentioned I believe is good and is the next one I will pick up!

Posted by Kris Thompson on September 26, 2003 at 04:19 PM MDT #

Matt, on safari.oreilly.com you can get all those books (plus 4 more) for $15 bucks/month. On top of that, you'll be able to search the "contents" of those books. I've been a member for a month and am concidering on upgrading my subscription, already!

Posted by Cesar on September 26, 2003 at 06:00 PM MDT #

I just lined up for the java os programming as well + got a 12$ used unread copy of the rod johnson book. 45 bucks well spent I hope :)

Posted by fx on September 26, 2003 at 08:28 PM MDT #

I don't know if I'm willing to try the Safari thing - my current gig has a subscription, so maybe I'll give it a go through them. I usually buy books to have a quick reference at my fingertips - the index usually provides all the searching I need. One desired book I forgot to add is on OS X - any recommendations?

Posted by Matt Raible on September 26, 2003 at 08:32 PM MDT #

Could you please add any books that you like to the DenverJUG Wiki? Based on our conversation at the Rock Bottom after the Gradecki/Booch JUG meeting I've created two Book Wiki pages. The Interesting Technical Reads page is for Technical reads that are fun reads. The Recommended Technical Books page is for good Technical books or books that have been recommended at the JUG. I've included comments on the Wiki too. For example, I thought the Alexandar book <u>The Timeless Way of Building</u> was a little too dry for me. All of these are available on the DJUG Wiki Page

Posted by Greg Ostravich on September 27, 2003 at 08:01 AM MDT #

Maybe it's just me, but I try to avoid specific application books, preferring instead to purchase concept books. I recently picked up 'Distributed Algorithms' by Lynch, which is actually quite good. API-oriented books will be dated in six months, giving the investment poor returns IMHO. Books about general design and practices seem to deliver more return. Besides, isn't a new version of log4j coming out soon anyway? At least wait a few months and get it for half price. Just my $0.10. :)

Posted by Nick Heudecker on September 27, 2003 at 08:49 PM MDT #

Safari has more than just O'Reilly books - New Riders, Prentice-Hall, SAMS, Addison Wesley, Que are all available. A little bit of lag time for new books to be converted to on-line format. Great service. I just picked up a few (c) 2003 WROX press books from Borders books for 75% off (JSP 2.0, J2EE 1.4, $12.50 each). If you have one nearby, go look for their clearance section, quick! I also picked up "Code Generation in Action". Mostly focused on Java, but other stuff is in there: Perl, Python, C, C++, Ruby. Uses a lot of regular expressions, but details them VERY well. Covers all the important stuff like XML, XDoclet, and covers generation for data access, unit tests, business logic, web services, documentation, and UIs. Pretty thorough coverage, lots of good diagrams and UML. I'm pretty happy so far, and my eyes are lighting up with all kinds of possibilities. As for your selections, I think the log4j and JUnit in Action books should be wiped off the list. Too focused a subject to spend money on, IMO. You can get the JUnit stuff in the Open Source book, but serious, if you can't do log4j on your own either the API isn't worth using or... no comment. :-) CVS is a bear, so I say get it. Tomcat can go either way. Maybe find a different book that has other tech in it and a nice long chapter on Tomcat? Use Resin instead -- it just works.

Posted by gerryg on September 29, 2003 at 03:29 PM MDT #

the log4j book is great, i have it and i'm very pleased with it. the eclipse in action is not bad, i reviewed it for slashdot, so look there for more of my thoughts

Posted by Simon Chappell on October 02, 2003 at 05:49 PM MDT #

I can't imagine reading a book on log4j. How interesting can it get?

Posted by Anon on October 02, 2003 at 07:34 PM MDT #

Although apparently uninteresting, there is more to logging than what initially meets the eye. For one, logging captures information about a running application. So the more complex your application the more complex the logging will get. Second, logging operates under stringent operational constraints (e.g. reliability, speed) which pose difficult technical problems.

I think Ron Rivest once said that "security was fractal". It was infinitely complex if you studied it carefully. In my humble opinion, the same could be said about logging.

Posted by Ceki Gulcu on October 19, 2003 at 09:38 AM MDT #

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