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20050314 Monday March 14, 2005

Microsoft's Agenda at the Competitive Influentials Summit They said I could blog everything about the conference I'm going to tomorrow, so let's see how far they're willing to go. ;-) A lot of folks have asked me what the agenda is, and until now - I've had no clue. However, today I was sent an e-mail and I'm happy to let y'all know what's going to happen. One thing I noticed is that the Word document's title was "Competitive Influentials Summit". Heh - I guess I'm an "influential" now.

I'm really looking forward to this event. I think we're really going to get wined and dined, and maybe even learn something. It'll be the first time in my life that someone will be picking me up from the airport with a "Raible" sign. I'm leaving at noon on Thursday to do a little St. Patty's day celebrating with my sister (it's her birthday), so I'll miss the "Open Source and Microsoft" session. Hopefully someone else will blog that so we see what they're thinking.

Wednesday, March 16
Time Topic
7:30am-8:00am Registration/ Breakfast
8:00am-8:30am Welcome Keynote
8:30am-9:00am Attendee Introductions
9:00am-10:00am Improving Security at Microsoft by changing the process
10:00am-11:00am Microsoft Messaging Futures Using Indigo
11:00am-11:15am Break
11:15am-12:15pm Programming Language Design Panel: Jim Miller/Jim Hugunin/Herb Sutter
12:15pm-1:00pm Lunch / Channel9.MSDN.com Discussion
1:00pm-2:00pm Developer Community Outreach Efforts
2:00pm-3:00pm SQL 2005 and the Developer
3:00pm-4:00pm Product Development Process
4:00pm-4:15pm Break
4:15pm-5:45pm Windows Architecture
5:45pm-10:00pm Shuttles depart for Teatro ZinZanni
Thursday, March 17
Time Topic
7:30am-8:00am Welcome / Breakfast
8:00am-9:00am Morning Keynote
9:00am-10:00am .NET CLR Architecture
10:00am-10:15am Break
10:15am-11:15am ASP.NET 2.0
11:15am-12:15pm VS.NET 2005
12:15pm-1:45pm Lunch / Microsoft Research and Innovation
1:45pm-2:45pm Smart Client Futures
2:45pm-3:45pm Guidance Through Patterns and Practices
3:45pm-4:00pm Break
4:00pm-5:00pm Open Source and Microsoft
5:00pm-6:00pm Company Store Visit
6:00pm Shuttle departs for Willows Lodge
7:00pm-10:00pm Evening Event at Red Hook Brewery
Friday, March 18
Time Topic
8:00am-8:45am Welcome / Breakfast
8:45am-9:15am Closing Keynote
9:15am-10:15am Windows CE and Mobility
10:15am-10:30am Break
10:30am-11:30am Visual StudioTeam System
11:30pm-12:00pm Closing Remarks
12:00pm Lunch / Departure for airport/hotel

Posted in Java at Mar 14 2005, 12:53:52 PM MST 7 Comments

Comments:

Let me know the next time you come to Tucson. I'll come to the airport with a sign that says "Raible". This is really cool. Keep blogging about it.

Posted by Rick Hightower on March 14, 2005 at 08:30 PM MST #

I'm just curious how many of the invited "java leaders" will get brain washed and converted :). Nice strategy from M$ side. I'm convinced they will do everything to feel yourself good (until you will be assimilated :D ).

Posted by Jake Robwood on March 15, 2005 at 06:27 AM MST #

Besides getting wined and dined, I don't see the point of going. This looks like one of those ski valley condo sales pitches where you get a free 19" TV for sitting through a boring presentation -- "it's a great place to live in the summer and you'll never miss the snow!" But this is like, two days!! So what are you really interested in attending for? The talks?? "Improving Security at Microsoft by changing the process" -- yeah, right, like they even know what security is much less how to improve it. "Microsoft Messaging Futures Using Indigo" -- come use our proprietary technology and lock in with us! "Programming Language Design Panel" -- we need more obscure languages that only run on .NET's CLR, come learn how! "Developer Community Outreach Efforts" -- aka, "We're Really Not Evil, Honest!" "Windows Architecture" -- our diagrams are better (read: more complex) than anything Linux can come up with! They're practically art! ".NET CLR Architecture" -- learn about our proprietary architecture and how cool you will be if you write for it! "ASP.NET 2.0" -- cough, cough, sputter, choke!!! "Microsoft Research and Innovation" -- snicker, snicker, heh, heh. aka "Thievery and Extortion 101" "Company Store Visit" -- oh, this is why you're going. :-) 75-90% off is about what we should be normally paying, anyway. Note - these are my opinions and I speak only for myself. But I bet a lot of others feel the same way.... :-) So Matt, really, why are you going?

Posted by gerryg on March 15, 2005 at 10:23 AM MST #

to gerryg:
I suppose he is going cause he just curious.
But, as we all know, "curiosity killed the cat" :).

Posted by Jake Robwood on March 15, 2005 at 11:56 AM MST #

Let me answer the question that Gerry poses to Matt. Please correct me if I am wrong, Matt R. You see, Matt is a very open minded person. He is not locked into any type of technology or methodology (as you can tell from Appfuse!) and is always interested in hearing what people have to say. Where else to hear about the boys from Redmond than from the actual boys in Redmond? He may not believe any or all of what they have to say but it is a great opportunity nonetheless. Remember, too, that one of his conditions for going was to be able to blog, in real-time as well. He is basically letting you all in on something that is supposed to be for 49 individuals. I have learned in my short time knowing Matt to expect the unexpected from him, and that's not a bad thing. Does this experience fit into Matt's career plans? Probably not. But I bet he will get a lot out of it these next three days. And we probably will too.

Posted by Matt F on March 15, 2005 at 09:55 PM MST #

Matt, I only just caught up with this. I hope that you get a chance to ask the MS folks the following: What are they going to do to support integrating the open source tools for C# that are coming out as shown on this list? I've been involved in teaching a course on c# plus Java web dev, and was surprised how poorly the .NET versions of Ant, Junit, etc are developed. Now, MS has a few extra bucks, and could play a role similar to IBM does with Java if they wanted to, so what's their plan? Hope you get to ask this. Enjoy the ride, even if you don't get a 19" telly at the end.

Posted by Bruce Scharlau on March 16, 2005 at 02:47 AM MST #

Matt F -- Yeah, I took the very one-sided approach, but mostly that was to prod Matt into rebutting and giving his real reasons for going. Well, Matt took the bait, but the wrong one! :-) Seriously though, there are a couple of interesting looking sessions, but certainly Microsoft has an agenda, and by all accounts based on their previous behaviour, a self-serving one. And based on the fact that the vast majority of their presentations focus on their own technologies (and hence by definition not on working with others), I had to wonder what they think they're going to accomplish with this Summit. Is it just a wine & dine make 'em feel good session so they attendees will say nice things about Microsoft? I, too, can't wait to hear what Matt R has to say about it, assuming he makes it to any of the presentations... ;-) I'll sign off by saying yes MS does have some good stuff in their product mix -- I just find that they aren't headed in a direction I would like to pursue and along with Matt R I make a pretty darn good living NOT writing code in/for MS proprietary platforms/languages/technologies.

Posted by gerryg on March 16, 2005 at 08:41 AM MST #

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