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Why hasn't JBoss "bought" Facelets? Remember when JBoss use to "buy" open source projects by hiring their lead developers and paying them to work on open source? Remember when Marc Fleury said something about owning open source projects?

Have things changed at Red Hat? When are they going to buy Facelets? From the Facelets mailing list:

JBoss Seam progress is heavily dependent on facelets so might be JBoss could to something to remedy the situation with lack of evolution in current facelets.

Facelets is a very good project which now suffers due to lack of evolution which it needs.

Please, keep it going...

Jacob - are you willing to be bought? According to the Facelets user community, this project could really use some help. Posted in Java at Jun 02 2007, 01:34:18 AM MDT 4 Comments

Comments:

This would be a great idea! At least it can help JSF to be considered more seriously. Personally I like JSF very much but can not or even don't want to sell it to any project sponsor right now.

Posted by Ashkan on June 02, 2007 at 04:05 AM MDT #

You took the blog entry right out of my head. That is exactly what I was thinking. If JBoss consumed Exadel's products, and both Exadel and JBoss have a strong preference for Facelets as the JSF view handler, then why wouldn't they grab Facelets along with it?

I realize what you are getting at, that JBoss is hording the projects. I cannot say I disagree. However, it was either that or they would have eventually failed anyway because of the poor adoption of JSF. JBoss is turning that train around in a major way. But with such a large investment in Facelets, I just don't see how Gavin et al are resisting keeping their hands off of it. Perhaps we should ask Gavin directly?

Frankly, if I were Jacob, I would tell Sun to go to hell and join JBoss. Facelets is really the only reason that JSF finally got "accepted." Sun appears to have written him off to a large degree by investing in the JSF-JSP integration. Perhaps a strong statement and highly speculative, so take it for what it is. At least at JBoss, Jacob would get the credit he deserves.

Posted by Dan Allen on June 02, 2007 at 09:52 AM MDT #

Have you taken a look at JSR-314 Facelets has quickly become an enormously popular view description language for Java Server Faces. This JSR aims to standardize most of what is in Facelets, including its page templating feature.

Posted by anonymous on June 02, 2007 at 10:23 AM MDT #

With the recent posts to the mailing lists and this blog, there's be renewed interest from Sun and other top JSF folks to contribute time to Facelets. I apologize, but like I said on the lists, I'm too wrapped up in my day job at the moment and could use some help. The gears are still churning, but time is sparse for me. There's lots of great ideas out there from people using JSF daily and they deserve to have these ideas implemented to better the JSF platform.

Posted by Jacob Hookom on June 02, 2007 at 09:38 PM MDT #

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