20031110 Monday November 10, 2003

Why I don't use My Eclipse IDE I don't use My Eclipse IDE because I can't. It won't install on Windows XP with the latest JDK (error: "Can't launch executable. Could not load jvm.dll."). Apparently, it's not their fault, it's ZeroG's fault. If I was motivated enough, I could install an older version of the JDK (i.e. 1.4.1), but then I'd have to hack my registry to get the JRE back to 1.4.2. I'll pass - if I can't even install it, it's probably not worth my time.

All the other Eclipse plugins are distributed as zip files that you expand into the plugins directory - why can't this one work the same way? Posted in Java at Nov 10 2003, 10:13:27 AM MST 6 Comments

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Did you every get the lomboz plugin working? I use the sysdeo launcher to start tomcat, and lomboz to do the editing, and that works for me. It saves me a lot of frustration to have lomboz do the syntax checking for me, rather than saving changes, bringing up to page in the browser, waiting for tomcat to compile it, get an error message, find the line number... ;-) <p/>The highlighting of the scriplets is nice, but the other thing I like is the autocomplete. Supposedly it does tag completion for custom tag libraries now - I haven't tried it.

Posted by Will Gayther on November 10, 2003 at 01:50 PM MST #

I have tried the lomboz plugin. It does work pretty nicely with regards to code completion and app deployment and such. The only thing that I found not to like was the "lomboz" footprint it adds to every jsp you create. But don't do much jsp work anymore...

Posted by Harold Neiper on November 11, 2003 at 07:20 AM MST #

Actually, the MyEclipse installer is much nicer than a regular Eclipse plug-in installer because it keeps all of its files separate and just puts a pointer in Eclipse's links directory. The advantage there is that if you want to dump the MyEclipse plugin, you just delete that one little file and it's gone -- no crufting up your Eclipse home directory with the massive number of files that make up MyEclipse. Borland's Together modeling plug-in for Eclipse works the same way, and I think all really large Eclipse add-ins should follow that pattern.

Posted by Rafe on November 11, 2003 at 01:34 PM MST #

Actually, "Doesn't Work" != "Much Nicer" (Ok, I know, I need to get some sleep...) <p/>Realistically, the disadvantage is that to uninstall Eclipse, you have to delete the eclipse folder plus uninstall each plugin individually that installs this way. Plus, to install Eclipse, you can't just copy an Eclipse folder from someone else. You have to install each plugin using it's install program (if you still have it...or find the directory the plugin is in and copy it, perhaps). Wait, what was the advantage again? Oh yeah, you only have to delete that one little file...isn't it just as easy to delete that one little directory, since each plugin is put in it's own directory? I guess if you're running more than one instance of Eclipse, maybe it's usefull...if that plugin doesn't store configuration files in it's own directory...

Posted by Will Gayther on November 11, 2003 at 03:16 PM MST #

I have the same jdk(1.4.2) running on a windows xp box. I have both my eclispe 3.6.3 and 2.6.3 installed to a M4 and 2.11 installation of eclipse. I don't think it is 1.4.2 that is causing this problem. Sounds like the installization is broken in some other way.

Posted by Matt Payne on November 11, 2003 at 09:43 PM MST #

try this... http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipselauncher/ i had a similar problem once.

Posted by mrzeld on November 12, 2003 at 10:56 AM MST #

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