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Friday September 08, 2006

GlassFish Numbers Fudging

Remember when I thought Sun/java.net was trying to make GlassFish look more popular than it is? It looks like they took it up a notch in August. Not only do they have the top spot in "most accesses", but they have the top 2 spots!

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Isn't it possible to automate these stats instead of using a spreadsheet? ;-)

Posted in Java at Sep 08 2006, 01:58:14 PM MDT 5 Comments
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At the end of the day, does it really matter? Proof is in the pudding...if Glassfish has that much traffic, why are companies not betting the farm on it, but Appfuse has a huge following? Concentrate on more important things and concern yourself on your community, not theirs, eh? If you spend too much time with their numbers, maybe its time to go to Codehaus or Apache...something to think about.

Posted by Jeff Genender on September 09, 2006 at 04:18 AM MDT #

Jeff: I think that sounds like bs.... This is a web site (java.net) for hosting software projects...A bug in statistics logs - something that most project admins do enjoy looking at - is a fairly big f-up... Concentrate more on appfuse instead of huge flaws in statistics reporting that java.net has? This almost sounds like the white house telling us to concentrate on 9/11 when people ask questions about all of the dying soldiers in Iraq and where these wmds are? Why don't you care about the statistics being correct jeff? ;)

Posted by Jesse Kuhnert on September 09, 2006 at 05:11 AM MDT #

Hi Matt. I agree, they should automate this type of thing. Actually, if they gave us access to the raw data, we could automate it for them... In any case, all these things are just (partial and flawed) tools to understand how our communities are doing... From what I can see, AppFuse is doing very well... And do let me know if there is any way we can help you guys from the GlassFish side. Thanks, - eduard/o

Posted by Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart on September 09, 2006 at 04:46 PM MDT #

From Jesse:

Concentrate more on appfuse instead of huge flaws in statistics reporting that java.net has? This almost sounds like the white house telling us to concentrate on 9/11 when people ask questions about all of the dying soldiers in Iraq and where these wmds are? Why don't you care about the statistics being correct jeff? ;)

Your analogy with the whitehouse/9-11 and java.net/Appfuse seems a bit extreme, don't you agree? My point was, the most important thing he has is community. As long as his community is strong, statistics, or supposed statistics should not be his concern, and he seems to place heavy weight on it. Success of his project is through his community and the links/hits/articles he has outside of java.net, which he has a lot of, is his best indicator of his project's success. My advice was not to sweat the small stuff. No BS here. ;-)

Posted by Jeff Genender on September 09, 2006 at 09:10 PM MDT #

Jeff: Maybe...I had just recently finished watching a film about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_chomsky, so it's possible that conflicting thoughts were intermingling with my reply ;)

Posted by Jesse Kuhnert on September 09, 2006 at 10:58 PM MDT #

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