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Thursday November 12, 2009

Building SOFEA Applications with GWT and Grails

Last night, I spoke at the Denver Java User Group meeting. The consulting panel with Matthew, Tim and Jim a lot of fun and I enjoyed delivering my Building SOFEA Applications with GWT and Grails presentation for the first time. The talk was mostly a story about how we enhanced Evite.com with GWT and Grails and what we did to make both frameworks scale. I don't believe the presentation reflects the story format that well, but it's not about the presentation, it's about the delivery of it. ;-)

If you'd like to hear the story about this successful SOFEA implementation at a high-volume site, I'd recommend attending the Rich Web Experience next month. If you attended last night's meeting and have any feedback on how this talk can be improved, I'd love to hear it.

Posted in Java at Nov 12 2009, 09:30:09 AM MST 11 Comments
Comments:

Thanks for the slideshow , It would be nice that you share a video or audio of your presentation

Posted by Isaac López on November 12, 2009 at 05:40 PM MST #

Matt, a good portion of the slides in the middle are broken, any chance you could post a pdf or powerpoint directly?

Posted by Ryan Crumley on November 12, 2009 at 10:34 PM MST #

What do you mean by "broken"? They render fine for me (OS X, Firefox, Flash 10). You can download all my presentations as PDFs from SlideShare or my presentations page.

Posted by Matt Raible on November 13, 2009 at 12:25 AM MST #

Must have been a glitch in SlideShare because it is working fine now. Slides 10-20 had a single line of text that said "There was an error converting the original slide".

Posted by Ryan Crumley on November 13, 2009 at 12:36 AM MST #

[Trackback] This post was mentioned on Twitter by mraible: Building SOFEA Applications with GWT and Grails (preso from last night's #denverjug): http://bit.ly/15vKI4

Posted by uberVU - social comments on November 13, 2009 at 01:43 AM MST #

This was a great presentation live and on slideshare. Matt is always an awesome speaker with lots of valuable tips to share on many technologies. If you are developing with any of these technologies this presentation along with the related blog entries are a must read. If you are not developing with these technologies then I ask why not as the productivity and flexability is unparalleled.

Posted by Scott Ryan on November 13, 2009 at 03:30 PM MST #

I for one think that the client-side managed presentation flow forces one to reinvent something like Spring MVC or Grails Controllers/GSP inside some client technology like GWT.

Not that this is wrong, but dont expect your custom solution or any of the existing stuff (mvp4g, gwt-mvc, gwt-presenter) to be as mature as the existing serverside frameworks.

Posted by Sakuraba on November 13, 2009 at 06:46 PM MST #

Hello Matt. Very nice and interesting HP. Thank you for showing us. Wish you a great weekend. Greetings from Belgium.

Posted by Mandy on November 14, 2009 at 01:40 PM MST #

Matt at page 24 you say GWT widgets are great.

I have found this blog entry

http://www.cforcoding.com/2009/10/lost-in-translation-or-why-gwt-isnt.html

that say exactly the opposite.

I wonder if you can shortly say your motivation about GWT widgets being great

Posted by ivano on November 16, 2009 at 06:23 PM MST #

@Ivano - it is true that the native GWT widgets leave something to be desired. However, it was pretty easy for me to extend the SelectBox to create a Facebook-style autocomplete with GWT. The hardest part was figuring out the CSS.

When I saw "the widgets are great", I'm largely comparing GWT to other component-based frameworks. The thing I really like about GWT widgets/components is they're all-Java so you can easily extract them and use them in other applications. With Tapestry, JSF, etc., you usually need a Java file and a template to create a re-usable component.

Also, I've used GXT on my last couple projects. It's widgets are very slick, even if the library itself isn't very GWT-ish.

IMO, it's entirely possible that GWT works great for me, but it won't work well for others. It's all about what you like. After all, there is no "best" web framework.

Posted by Matt Raible on November 16, 2009 at 08:35 PM MST #

@Matt - Thanks for your answer, of course there is no best framework, but from the slides your judgment of GWT widgets was not motivated (I'm sure you did int the speech), just wanted to know something more about that.

Posted by ivano on November 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM MST #

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