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Edit Screens with JSF

I'm working with JSF this morning and I'm finding one thing particularly annoying. I'm working on a simple master/detail screen and I'm tweaking the detail screen to fit my needs. It's just a <form> with some form elements. I change something, run "ant deploy-web" and hit "refresh" to see my updated page. Since everything in JSF is a post, I get prompted to re-submit the form. Fine, I agree - then I'm returned to the list screen. Argggh - why can't I just view the form again?! This might just be a MyFaces nuance, I'm not sure. Anyone know of a workaround?

Wanna see the bug/feature in action? Go to http://demo.raibledesigns.com/equinox-jsf/userList.html, click on a row - and after the edit screen displays, hit refresh on your browser. In an ideal world, you'd see the form again, but nope - you get the list instead.

Posted in Java at Nov 28 2004, 10:02:25 AM MST 9 Comments

Ant Hacks by Erik Hatcher

The first session I attended was Erik Hatcher's Ant Hacks talk. The first half of his talk was about Ant in general and was most of the stuff covered in Java Development with Ant. The good stuff was the 2nd half when he covered all the new stuff in Ant 1.6. Steve is working on an update to Java Development with Ant - shoujld will be a lot thinner. Below are some notes I took on what's new in 1.6.

  • <image> task. Requires Java Advanced Imaging API
    • Performs image manipulation
  • <import> task
    • No more entity ref includes needed - can use Ant properties for file reference now.
    • OO Nature
      • mix in imported build files - call super on imported file by specifying depends="${ant.project.name}.target" where the project.name is specified in the imported build file. Only targets that are overridden will get prefixed with namespace.
      • target overriding - main build file takes precedence
      • "abstract" targets - requires main build file implementation
  • <subant> task - Recurses tree
    • Two modes: 1) same build file in each sub directory 2) crawl a tree and run same build file on all subdirectories
  • Can have targetless build files. Everything outside a target gets executed before any targets
  • <presetdef> - Use the same task and optionally repeat. Define the options once, give it a name and refer to it later. Can override attributes later in the build.xml file. Only works for one task at a time.
  • <macrodef> - bye bye antcall. Much faster than antcall - does all the same things
    • You can specify attributes and elements as part of the definition. Tasks are wrapped in a <sequential> tag.
      • attributes are referred to in tasks using @{attribute}
      • elements are simple placeholders using XML <element/>
    • I could really use this stuff in AppFuse to replace the compile-module and test-module targets
    • "spawn" a new attribute on <java> - allows process to live past when Ant dies
  • <scriptdef> - allows you to use all kinds of scripting languages - i.e. Groovy, JavaScript, etc.
    • the project, attributes and elements are given to you - so you can easily grab them in the scripts
    • helpful to know Ant's API when writing
  • <antlib> - componentizes definition of types and tasks
    • anything that defines stuff - put in antlib.xml (i.e. <taskdef>)
    • mostly designed for Ant task distributors because they can package an antlib.xml with a namespace
    • has root element of <antlib> instead of XML
      • xmlns:antcontrib="antlib:net.sf.antcontrib" - brings in all tasks into your project

I really liked Erik's talk because AppFuse was inspired by his Java Development with Ant book. Its build.xml file was intially based on Erik's sample app and therefore, the first half of his talk pretty much pointed out tips and tricks that I'm currently using. The 2nd half of his talk was highlighting the new features of 1.6 - which he's suggested I adopt in the past. I've never had much desire (or time) to dig in and update AppFuse's build.xml file to 1.6. However, after attending his talk - it seems like it should be pretty easy to do. Good bye <antcall>, hello <macrodef>.

Later: One of the coolest things I saw in Erik's talk was how his Ant logging was color coded. I asked him about it and all your need to do is specify "-logger org.apache.tools.ant.listener.AnsiColorLogger" in an ANT_ARGS environment variable. Good stuff!

Posted in NFJS at Nov 12 2004, 05:12:12 PM MST 1 Comment

Denver's No Fluff Just Stuff starts today

It's time for another NFJS conference. I attended the one in June and had an awesome experience. I doubt I'll cover it as much as I did last time, that's just a lot of work - not to mention my cell phone's data bill was $300! As I look through the sessions, I'm noticing that it's a great thing to attend 2 of these conferences - b/c you can skip all the sessions you saw the first time. Since there's usually 2-3 good ones per time slot, reducing that down to 1-2 is nice.

This afternoon, I'm planning to attend sessions by Erik Hatcher and Stuart Halloway. Erik for Ant 1.6 and Subversion (maybe even Lucene) and Stuart for "dynamic, reflective languages". Since much of AppFuse's build.xml is based on Erik's Java Dev with Ant sample app, it'd be nice to figure out how to take advantage of 1.6 features (especially since 1.6.2 is required). I've never seen Stuart speak before, but I've heard he's excellent.

Saturday I plan on learning more about Tapestry from Erik (in a 3-hour session!). Since adding Tapestry to AppFuse is my next open-source development effort, this weekend and ApacheCon are good opportunities to learn more about it. I know, I should just buck up and read the book (I made it to page 100 a couple of weeks ago, nothing since), but it's tough to find the time.

I'll probably skip out tomorrow afternoon and work on Spring Live since Chapter 10 is due by Monday and I'm not done yet. Sunday, I'll be talking about AppFuse making open-source easier. "Brain, get ready to be stuffed."

Posted in NFJS at Nov 12 2004, 09:11:55 AM MST Add a Comment

[DJUG] Web Services and Geronimo

We're finally getting started at 6:25 and we were supposed to start at 5:50. Good ol' projector issues. This time it was a bent pin.

J2EE 1.4 introduced the first web services component type (SE) and augments EJB specification (2.1) to expose SLSBs as a web service endpoint.

Writing J2EE 1.4 web services ("endpoints")

Two J2EE components to implement a web service:

  • JSE (JAX-RPC Service Endpoint). New component, new deployment descriptor. Looks like a servlet, acts like a servlet. Run's in a web container like a servlet. Isn't a servlet.
  • SLSB. Exposed as web service via deployment descriptors.

JSE is easier because it's (mostly) POJO based. EJB might be preferred if you already have EJBs or you need transaction management. However, the SOAP client calling the EJB web service does not participate in the transaction (at least the spec does not define it).

"Mandatory" transaction attribute not allowed in EJB endpoints because SOAP client can't propagate transaction.

JSEs are similar to servlets:

  • Instances run in the web container
  • follow servlet lifecycle
  • Must have a public no-arg constructor
  • Can add servlet filters just like you do normally

Steps to writing a web service JSE:

    1. Write remote interface (the service endpoint interface) - must extend java.rmi.Remote and throw RemoteException
    2. Write implementation class
    3. WSDL Document
    4. Deployment Descriptors (web.xml and web-services.xml)
    5. Create WAR File

J2EE 5 will allow you to turn any POJO into a web service - no interface needed. Apache Axis can be used to generate the WSDL for you with Ant. You map the implementation class as a servlet, with a servlet-mapping and everything. The difference b/w JSE's and servlets is you can only map one JSE to one URL.

Writing web service clients. Client model is defined by the JAX-PRC 1.1 spec. You can write web service clients using three JAX-RPC techniques:

1. Generated Stub - Easiest. Done at development time. JAX-RPC is invisible to your code. Stub classes hide it. Runtime implementation will be tied to a vendors JAR because vendor tool will generate class based on WSDL.

2. Dynamic Proxy - Most Portable. Done at runtime. Your code asks JAX-RPC factory to create stub at runtime that implements SEI (Service Endpoint Interface).

3. Dynamic Invocation Interface (DII) - No Stub Necessary. Useful for tools - e.g. dynamically retrieve WSDL then show user on a GUI what services are available and allow user to select what should be called. Client sets URL, methods to invoke and required parameters.

Future of J2EE web services. JAX-RPC 2.0 (JSR 224) in the works. The goals of JAX-RPC 2.0 are several:

  • Make writing WS simpler by using metadata and annotations.
  • If you write an endpoint interface, your implementation class won't have to implement it.
  • Remove requirement to define a remote object.
  • Better support for document-centric web services.
  • Integration with JAXB.

Tom's presentation was quite good for his situation. There was a *ton* of technical issues and he had to show his presentation on Chris Huston's Powerbook. This meant no demos since he had JBoss 4.0 and everything else setup on his Windows laptop. After flailing about for the last hour - he admits its time to buy a Mac.

Apache Geronimo

1. Apache Software License
2. Uses other BSD-derived, open source projects
3. Initial manifestation as a J2EE 1.4 application server 4. J2EE 1.4 certified (in-progress)

Started a year ago in September. The main motivator for Geronimo was there was no BSD-derived license for an open-source application server. The GPL license requires you to contribute code back if you customize a product. BSD allows you to do anything, you just have to give credit back to the originator. Sounds like the proper license for AppFuse to me.

The heart of Geronimo (the kernel) knows nothing about J2EE. It's designed to do just about anything you want it to do - it's just a configuration away. Jakarta project at Apache makes up a huge portion of ASF projects. Many of these projects are pieces of the J2EE puzzle. However, there wasn't any glue to hold it all together. Geronimo re-uses a *lot* of existing (best of breed) open source projects.

Geronimo still doesn't support Tomcat. The main reason is because 3 of the Jetty committers are part of the Geronimo team. Jetty was the first component every deployed in Geronimo. According to Bruce, someone is working on integrating Tomcat right now. You'd think this would be pretty easy and only take a couple days to do. Maybe I'm wrong.

Geronimo is NOT another lightweight container, web framework, or AOP framework.

It IS designed for long running servers. Its designed to tolerate partial component failures. System oriented services.

Geronimo Kernel - Fundamental Core

  • Small memory consumption ~ 150KB code
  • Component Registration
  • Component Configuration
  • Integrated Repository
  • Lifecycle Control
  • Dependency Manager

Now Bruce is going on about Maven and how it works. ZZZzzzzz. Maven schmaven. He does have a good point though - it works great for building and managing multiple projects and their dependencies. Geronimo has 30 sub projects - yow.

A lot of concepts and architecture in Geronimo is derived from Maven. Hmmm, I wonder if that means it's slow. ;-)

What are GBeans? They're a J2EE managed component (a JMX MBean), which are basically simple objects plus some metadata. Used to bridge JSR-77 lifecycle requirements. GBean wrappers allow just about anything to be plugged into be plugged into Geronimo. Implement the GBeanLifecyle interface: doStart(), doStop(), and doFail().

Bruce is now showing us the DerbySystemGBean that's used to stop and start GBean w/in Geronimo. Bruce has a lot of good things to say about Derby and thinks it's a much better database than both MySQL and PostgreSQL. That's a pretty strong statement, but since he met with Derby's architect last week, I tend to believe him. I'm assuming since I got AppFuse working with DB2 that using it with Derby would be pretty easy too.

Bruce says there's supposed to be a Geronimo release this week. I thought they were supposed to be done with Geronimo by this year's ApacheCon?

Now we're looking at an XML file that's a GBean configuration file. It looks like Spring is going to get some competition for long class names. And if you thought Spring's XML was verbose - Geronimo puts it to shame! I'm not saying this is a bad thing - it's just an observation.

GBean Archive - A JAR file that contains persisted GBean instances, GBean metadata. The Java classes in the GBean can reside in the JAR or be dependencies in a central repository.

GBean Descriptor - dependencies and configuration are defined in XML.

Repository: Structured collection of JARs. Designed to work in conjunction with Maven (pluggable implementation). Every JAR has a unique group and artifact id. Default repository is local file system, others allow auto-download.

Observation: Bruce's presentation is interesting - he seems to be targeting folks that want to dig into Geronimo and customize it. I think most developers just want to use it and would be more interested in seeing a demo of deploying an app on Geronimo, rather than how to integrate Derby or Jetty into the server. If it's so easy to plugin a component, why hasn't Tomcat been integrated? Maybe it's just me, I want to see it run and deploy apps to it - that's about all I want to do. In most cases, I shouldn't need to customize it. It's nice to know that it's an option though.

Basic Configuration Builder: Deployers are J2EE specific (JSR-88). If you have standards-compliant deployment descriptors - your application should deploy on Geronimo. Rather than calling them deployers, Geronimo uses "Builders". The Builders /deployers create configuration objects containing GBeans. Most complex Builder is J2EE deployer. It implements a JSR-88 deployment specification and accepts JARs, WARs, EARs, and RARs. You can also add in a deployment plan in XML. From this, a Geronimo Configuration ARchive (.car) is created. The nice things about these builder is you can do deploy-time optimizations, before the application is started.

Everything above the System Services and Kernel is hot swappable. You can remove the J2EE Configuration and replace it with something else like Pico or Spring. This means that you'll be able to swap out servlet containers w/o shutting down the server. That's pretty damn cool. If the system services and kernel are stable, and no JVM dumps occur - this means that your Geronimo server could be running forever. Sounds awesome.

High-availability (clustering, etc.) has not been built into Geronimo yet. This is primarily because this is not part of the J2EE spec. Developers are focusing on gaining 1.4 compliance, then they'll start looking at the fancy features.

Wow - good presentation Bruce. I feel like I know more about Geronimo than I ever wanted to know.

As I was getting ready to post the above transcript, I noticed that Geronimo 1.0 M3 was released. According to Bruce's presentation, this is the last release before 1.0. Nice work gents.

Posted in DJUG at Nov 11 2004, 12:36:47 AM MST 3 Comments

[ANN] AppFuse 1.6.1 Released

This release is primarily a bug fix release, but it also contains a slick "AppGen" tool for generating full CRUD (with sample data and tests) from a POJO. AppGen essentially automates everything you do in the tutorials. I still encourage users to read through and do the tutorials in order to learn the code that is being generated. This feature basically reduces the amount of files you need to create/alter for CRUD from 16 to 2. Better yet, rather than generating the DAO and Manager (as well as the tests), it just uses generic methods in the base implementations. This eliminates the need (and hopefully desire) to create so many DAOs and Managers. In most cases, you can simply use the "manager" bean in your Actions/Controllers and call its respective methods. Thanks to Hibernate for making generic CRUD possible with only a handful of methods. Now you should be able to simply concentrate on the web-tier and only modify/create backend classes when you need special behavior.

To upgrade your 1.6 based application, I recommend performing the following steps:

This is how I've always done my AppFuse upgrades for Struts-Resume. It takes a couple of hours, but it's a lot easier than me trying to create an upgrade package. ;-)

I'll be talking about AppFuse this weekend at Denver's NFJS Conference. Next Monday I'll be in Vegas at ApacheCon. I've never done two different talks back-to-back before, let alone at two different conferences. Should be fun.

Posted in Java at Nov 09 2004, 11:53:44 PM MST 24 Comments

Trails - like Rails, but with Tapestry, Spring and Hibernate

I've been thinking about Rails ever since I wrote a post about it on Monday. The main reason is because of Dion's comment:

Matt - You should follow the lead and do a video of setting up a simple app using AppFuse.

This might sounds like a good idea, but if I did it right now in AppFuse's current state, it'd be a disaster. The reason? Because you have to manually create a whole bunch of classes to do CRUD on a database table. Here's a list of new classes needed for adding a new "person" table.

  • model.Person
  • dao.PersonDAOTest
  • dao.PersonDAO
  • dao.hibernate.PersonDAOHibernate
  • service.PersonManagerTest
  • service.PersonManager
  • service.impl.PersonManagerImpl
  • webapp.action.PersonActionTest
  • webapp.action.PersonAction
  • web/pages/personList.jsp
  • web/pages/personForm.jsp

The last two JSPs can be generated, but that's still a buttload of classes (9) just to CRUD (and test!) a database table. Not too mention all the files you need to edit for Spring and i18n.

  • dao/hibernate/applicationContext-hibernate.xml
  • service/applicationContext-service.xml
  • test/web/web-tests.xml
  • web/WEB-INF/classes/ApplicationResources_en.properties
  • web/WEB-INF/menu-config.xml

Result: to CRUD a database table using AppFuse you have to create 11 new files and modify 5 existing files. 16 files. What a beotch, huh? If I made a video of this - it'd be 20 minutes long! While this might make AppFuse look silly, it's really more of a symptom of the patterns we have in J2EE and how we're supposed to architect our apps. 3 tiers, test-driven, loosely-coupled and internationalized. Of course, if I was focused on fast and efficient, I could do this all with 1 JSP and JSTL's SQL tags. Everyone would slap my hand for not following patterns, but I'm willing to bet it'd work just as well and be just as fast. But I digress.

There have been a fair amount of requests (and some patches submitted) to generate and modify all of the files listed above. For the most part, I've frowned upon adding such a feature because I think if folks can run "ant generate -Dmodel=Person" - they'll end up with a whole bunch of code that they know nothing about. Sure there's the tutorials, but folks will quit reading those. Instead, they'll create a whole slew of POJOs (maybe even using Middlegen) and run "ant generate" on all 50 of them. Poof - now they've got 550 new files to maintain. Talk about a maintenance nightmare. Even worse - a support nightmare for me.

Nevertheless, if I wanted to create a cool video for AppFuse, I'd spend a few days writing this code-generation engine. Then I could show how you could create the data, service and web layer (including UI) in a matter of seconds. It'd be cool and folks would dig it. I'm still considering it, but I'm also leary of the resulting support fiasco. Maybe I could just say "use at your own risk". ;-)

A while back, I saw Erik Hatcher suggest a better solution than code-generation. I can't remember what he called it, but it was something like "meta-data dynamic rendering". The idea is that your application reads the metadata of a table (or POJO) and renders the appropriate UI for it. I loved the idea as soon as I heard it. I've always wanted a way to dynamically render the UI rather than writing HTML. Of course, I still want the ability to edit the templates and HTML since I fancy that sort of stuff. I don't like writing HTML for each row in a form, but I do like tweaking the HTML and CSS to look good.

Earlier this week, I saw the concept in action with Rails and its demo. IMO, something like Rails would never fly in Java because it appears to be tightly coupled to the database and only MySQL, PostgreSQL, and SQLite are supported. The Java community always seems to pride itself on database abstraction, partly due to JDBC and its ability to connect to anything that has a JDBC Driver. Ruby will probably catch up someday, but right now it appears to be looking for something like JDBC.

Then along comes Trails, which made me smile earlier today when I first read about it on the tapestry-dev mailing list.

I've been working on a project called Trails that uses Tapestry quite heavily and I thought it time to start soliciting feedback. Trails is a domain driven development framework that uses Tapestry, Spring, and Hibernate. Trails is very much in it's infancy, but the current version is functional and should give people a rough idea where I am heading. It's my first real forray into Tapesty and I have really found Tapestry a joy to work with.

Trails is very much like Rails, except that it doesn't talk directly to a database table. Instead, it talks to your domain objects that you mark up with XDoclet/Hibernate tags. To test it out, I dropped a User.java file into the org.trails.demo package, marked it up with XDoclet and deployed. It didn't work at first because the .hbm.xml files are explicitly listed in Spring's applicationContext.xml. I changed the "sessionFactory" bean to use the following and wammo - success! I could list and CRUD the table that my User object was mapped to.

  <property name="mappingDirectoryLocations">
    <list>
      <value>classpath:</value>
    </list>
  </property>

Trails is very cool, and I'd love to incorporate it into AppFuse or Equinox. Does an LGPL license allow me to do this? The one problem I can see with adding it is that it's specific to Tapestry and Hibernate, which doesn't always suite folks. I think developers might be willing to change because this solution will vastly improve their development productivity, but who knows. I think the best solution would be to offer this option in AppFuse/Equinox, but also offer the current manual and code-generation options. The holy grail would be the ability to plug in iBATIS or JDO instead of Hibernate. In addition, using Struts, Spring, WebWork or JSF instead of Tapestry would have folks clammering to use this stuff.

Mad props to David Heinemeier Hansson and Chris Nelson - you guys are developing awesome software.

Posted in Java at Oct 29 2004, 01:50:30 AM MDT 22 Comments

Using CruiseControl for Automating AppFuse Builds

After seeing Mike Clark speak at Denver's JUG earlier this month (download presentation), I became slightly motivated to try and get automated builds running for AppFuse with CruiseControl. It's fairly easy to do with Anthill, so I figured CruiseControl couldn't be too much harder.

After countless hours of trying to get it to work, I give up. I've documented what I did, and where I'm at - but I can no longer afford to spend any time on it. If you're motivated enough, feel free to try and get it working. Suggestions are welcome, but likely won't be acted upon since I'm burned out on CruiseControl.

Posted in Java at Oct 26 2004, 11:51:40 AM MDT 6 Comments

Rails - the MVC Framework for Ruby

When I first saw the quick setup for Rails video, I dismissed it as a something simple that wasn't that cool. Thanks to Dion's post, I decided to watch it again. Then I realized why it looked so simple the first time - the video kept looping and all I saw was the Apache setup part - I didn't see the whole video. After watching the video this morning, it's enough to make me want to become a Ruby developer and use Rails to develop my next webapp. Then again, Ruby probably doesn't pay the bills nearly as well. The upside is it looks like it would actually run fast on OS X instead of the dog-slow Ant/Tomcat/Eclipse/IDEA combination.

Hopefully I'll get to learn more about Rails at Denver's upcoming No Fluff Just Stuff. It looks like Dave has added it to his repertoire. I wonder if Rails has support for using the Copeland IoC container?

Posted in Java at Oct 25 2004, 03:19:00 PM MDT 9 Comments

Comparing Web Frameworks: Equinox, Ant and Maven

Next week I'll be putting together the sample apps for my Comparing Web Frameworks talk. They're going to be pretty simple. They'll be created using Equinox and will closely resemble the MyUsers app created in Chapter 2 of Spring Live. That is, they'll just be simple webapps that allow you to CRUD a database table. MyUsers just edits a user's first and last name, but I'll probably add a "birthday" field to demonstrate Date handling. Even though it's simple, it'll have a pageable/sortable list, validation and success messages - which is what most apps need. Of course, if I can't get X feature to work, I'll make sure and highlight that in my talk.

Equinox is based on Ant and works quite well. However, I have a Maven version of Equinox that I developed for Open Logic this summer. They've been gracious enough to let me release this as open source. BTW, if you're looking for a rich set of Maven sample apps - Blue Glue 3.1 will have a few (including multi-project). Blue Glue also contains detailed documentation on each of these sample apps I'm creating for this talk.

So the question is - should I release a Mavenized version of Equinox? Or should I modify Equinox to contain and allow you to use both Ant and Maven? The problem with allowing both is I'd likely give up everyone's favorite Maven feature - downloading dependencies. I personally have grown to loath this feature b/c repositories are hardly ever up-to-date and I spend a lot more time trying to get repositories updated (or creating my own) than I would downloading the JAR. Spring uses both and simply points Maven to its local JARs. That's probably what I'd do.

Of course, the easiest (and KISS) thing to do is to use Equinox with Ant and not complicate things. However, I'm willing to put in a couple hours to try and make Equinox allow both. Regardless, I'm willing to release a Mavenized version of Equinox - if there's interest.

P.S. Don't forget to thank the Open Logic guys for making this all possible. I wouldn't have been able to do this talk without their generous donation.

Posted in Java at Oct 21 2004, 02:57:52 PM MDT 3 Comments

MyJavaPack - an Open Source version of Blue Glue?

As noted by John Munsch, MyJavaPack looks pretty cool. At first glance, it looks like an open-source version of Open Logic's Blue Glue. Since I actually did some work on Blue Glue this summer, I downloaded MyJavaPack and did a a quick install.

I was quite impressed. All it did was download the packages I requested and installed them. In most cases, this is what I want - especially on my machine where I already have everything setup. Blue Glue goes a bit further than MyJavaPack. It installs and configures everything for you. This is great for brand new machines, but can be a pain for pre-configured machines since it adds stuff to your PATH.

The thing I like about MyJavaPack is that it's open-source. Therefore, I might be able to dig in and customize it for an AppFuse-based installer. Such an intaller would include tools for developing AppFuse: Ant, Tomcat, MySQL, Eclipse and AppFuse. That'd be pretty cool to be able to download and install an entire development environment.

Neither product does what we all really want: the ability to do an "update" (like Windows Update or Software Update on OS X) of our existing packages.

Posted in Java at Oct 19 2004, 11:12:19 AM MDT 4 Comments